Hey, I'm Neffyarious. I've been given the task of Wiki Manager for Diamond Ace wiki. This means I'll help the community here and be a liaison to full-time Fandom staff. If you ever have any questions or issues, feel free to message me.
Can we please have these two users: User:126.96.36.199 and User:Iloveizumi banned for vandalism to Narumiya Mei's page. And if it's possible, please promote some new admins. Both admins have been largely inactive, and there are several users that need banning and pages that need to be deleted, but it can't be done without an active admin.
I honestly would suggest you stop using (current) in regards to age and education status. It's redundant and it means more work during edits. We don't know when the series is going to end so using (currrent) is pretty useless as everything is going to keep changing as the story progresses. Plus, it is very obvious that the last listing under each category is the most recent age/grade.
It'd also be nice if we can change the references so that a popup feature is included. Like how it is on the Free anime wiki and the Yu-Gi-Oh wiki where we can just hover over the reference number and it'll show the chapter/book/episode referenced. It's a little annnoying to have to continuously go to the bottom of the page to find the references.
And you may want to fix the characters tab for the navigation menu. It's inconsistent with the Category:Male Characters not being linked to the header while the Category:Female Characters is linked to the header.
Hello!!!! :) hmm... I don't see any major problem with the use of the current mark. It's more clear that way. But I'll think about your suggestion. :)
I feel you with the pop up feature. I'd also prefer that one (I think it's really nice and convinient) but it's only possible using CSS... err..I left that one to boss since I honestly don't know how to use CSS.-_-' (or you know how to use CSS? if so please let me know. I can ask boss to have you aid us with that one. :) )
For the chracters tab...yep...will work on it... :)
For the popup references, you can just go to one of either wikis and asked one of their admins for help on it. The admins on those wikis are generally willing to help with stuff like this.
With the current thing, it's still more work than neccessarily needed and unless the person reading doesn't have common sense, it's extremely obvious what is current and what is not as the inforrmation is listed in chronological order. If something has to be added on, it should really only be the chapter they turned that age or entered that grade.
hmm? sorry err...late rep. I'm not sure what you're refering to when you say non-existent Characters page. Could you be referring to this one?
We only reference on chapters if the actual info is on the page an example is like for Masamune (in that chapter his age is stated) otheriwse we'll use (Act I) and (Act II) or separate using commas? If the "current tags" is a big problem I will just remove it (^u^) (err... later though... -_-')
Strange. Everytime I've clicked that link I get sent to a page asking if I want to create it or something.
You do realize a good deal of the chapters do state the dates, right? All you need to know to figure out the characters' ages are their birthday and grade level. Aside from those two points, the profiles aren't needed. And if you take note of the listed dates (shown on panels, the tournament charts, and calendars throughout the manga), it's easy to tell when tournaments are and when characters' birthdays have passed.
(^u^) Ola! Yes you are right. But would it not be a bummer if a chapter is put as source but when a reader checks, the info is not there? I mean, not all users/ readers will understand that the chapter is put there as ref because of the calendar. There are those who look for that particular info in a chapter. Hence, debut and current imo is more user friendly. (^u^)
I wouldn't think it'd be a bummer. I'd consider it as people not using common sense or their brain to actually think things through especially when the date or week of the month are stated in the episodes and chapters. Of the two, debut is the only necessary note for grades and ages because a lot of people forget what grade/age characters are at debut. Current still means more work, and it isn't user friendly to the editors. If a reader can't figure something so simple as chronological order, it's their own fault for not using their brain to think. (We don't need more people like that in this world.)
LOL! You're pretty harsh, v(^u^)v then I suppose I'm one of those without common sense (-_-'). imo a wiki should be an easy browse (thus the references of chapters where users should easily find the information we put) there's still a lot of work but we do out best to make it user friendly. We should be considerate to all. We'll do the thinking, the math whatever, and the reader will just read. hmm... for the current mark, okay I'll just remove it. Seriously it's not like it's a big problem, I just don't approve of the chapters as references for the ages without it being in that actual chapter. v(^u^)v
A person has to be harsh when they're surrounded by people who are idiots or supports Donald Trump.
Every chapter that I've listed as a reference has a or multiple specific dates listed in the chapter. If they actually look at the character's birthday/grade and the given date, it's extremely obvious. Plus, most sports manga don't celebrate birthdays so it's pointless to look for a stated age/grade outside of character profiles at the end of some chapters and the guidebooks. Don't go looking for something that doesn't exist.
You might want to check what's wrong with the characters page. When I'm looking at it, the layout is all over the place with the boxes being out of line with the other rows. From Second Years and down, the boxes aren't clustered together as they should be. But when I try to go edit it, the preview shows the layout is fine.
Hello! Due to Diamondine's request I'm joining this discussion :)
First of all @ ShikiKira thanks for all those suggestions and the work you’ve already put into this wikia during the last couple of days. I’m happy that there are still people who are willing to contribute frequently.
I agree that it should be obvious that the last listing under each category is the most recent age or grade. I don’t see a major problem with current tags per se but I too noticed that they got out of hand – some contributors seem to like them. So I would agree with banishing them from the infoboxes. And of course you can add references if they are useful to figure out the age!
Is that okay for the both of you? We should (again) agree on one version and stick with it throughout the whole wiki.
Concerning the references: I don’t understand why you two think it’s so annoying that you go to the bottom of the page when you click on the references. I think it’s pretty common and I’m neither irritated nor annoyed. And as long as there isn’t a bunch of complains about it I don’t see the need to change it.
And because I saw your [ShikiKira] comment referring to the referencing system (it was: “Why is the referencing system on this wiki so obselete in comparison to other wikis? The inability to <ref name=> is possibly one of the worst things you can do to references”): I’m just happy that there are people who want to help and provide information and as such references. As long as the references are correct and the tags work I don’t see why it should be that big of a problem. And because it’s obsolete it isn’t wrong. And just because it’s different of how you do it, it isn’t wrong either. And as long as it isn't wrong, it's not a problem for me. But if you think it's something we absolutely have to change and tell me why, we can still think about it.
The Category:Male Characters got already linked to the header – thanks for pointing that one out!
I can assure you that the „non-existent Characters page” exists and the navigation link works just fine. Like Diamondine I too have no problems, neither with the link nor the layout of the page. I tested it quite some time now and the layout was always fine and I never got sent to a page asking if I want to create it. So beats me, I have no idea where the problem lies. Does it still not work properly on your end?
I’ve reverted Kuroki Daigo’s name change. I hope it’s fine as it is now?
And last but not least: It’s not that you [ShikiKira] were out of bounds (so no offence), but because it was mentioned - let me tell you that there is no need to be harsh to other contributors if they aren’t as intelligent as you. “A person has to be harsh when they're surrounded by people who are idiots or supports Donald Trump.” The latter - on the other hand - I can fully understand ^^ Still, on this wiki we are all just Diamond no Ace - Fans and nothing more.
Is there anything else you two want to change or suggest?
The problem with the not having the ref name= coding being available is that the reference table gets unnecessarily longer. The ref name= code allows references to be done more efficiently and without clutter. At the moment, the current referencing system requires that we write the same reference again and again and the reference number would be different each time. The ref name= code allows it so that the reference and reference number is always the same whenever it's used on the page.
The coding for ref name is normally written as
<ref name="Name of reference"> Actual reference (Chapter XXX/Guidebook/Episode) </ref>.
No idea why, but I've attempted using it several times, but this wiki can't use it.
No offense taken, but people who can't use their brains to think for themselves are generally people without any common sense. And common sense is becoming less and less common.
Up to you boss. :) XD I agree, *sniff* the senpai's are now more like side characters.
And I have a question about the character ages boss... Well, clearly I was thinking about the Western counting of ages -_-' (when I saw the some of the chracters ages from the guidebook I started from there). But some contributors pointed out the Japanese traditional way of counting ages. What do you think should we do with the characters ages (particularly with those from Jan-Mar bdyas?)
Regarding the character ages: Well, it's the first time someone pointed that out (did nobody know until now?) but if ShikiKira is right (and her arguments sound pretty convincing tbh), then we'll count it that way and change it. I've to admit that I never thought about the difference of age-listing ... Ignorance is bliss (￣ー￣； But that's what the wiki is for - those who are better informed can point out mistakes or misinformation. By fans, for fans ( *• ̀ω•́ )b
Hello my dear fellow admin! Happy Birthday to you, the best of luck on this special day, happiness and health. Thank you for all your hard work and effort you've put into this wikia so far! I wish you all the best, may this Birthday be a memorable one!
What to do ... what to do -.-' I do not want to protect all pages, which have player statistics and unfortunately we can't protect just one part of a page. Do you think it will help if we put a "Note: this data is based on the official guidebook, it will only be changed if there is an official update! Notice that just because a character said something about another characters improvements is NOT AN OFFICIAL UPDATE!" above every statistic? I'm not sure if it will help, but we can at least try?!
hehehe I was about to ask you the same thing Boss about what we should do XD. Yeah, I'd feel bad blocking the pages too because there are still those wonderful anon contributors. :)
I think the Notice is a great a nice idea to try! But maybe we can just put it to the pages thats been continously edited/changed (likeSawamura Eijuns's -_-) What do you think? And hopefully crossfingers they'll leave the stats alone. -_-'
Hi Boss, I was sick for a while sorry for the late reply.
I saw it! Ohhh... it looks great and neat boss. I like it. :) err.. Sawamura's stats is the only stats I know of that has been continously edited. Other stats were also edited before like Umemiya, Furuya Haruichi and Chris. Do you think we should put the notice on their pages as well? Whatever you decide boss I'm wth you. :) XD
I really dislike the tabber layout, but one can not really change that so I thought I had to bear it ... but now I found a new solution => take a look at the Episodelist and tell me what you think about it! I know it won't work for all of them, but for this one it works imo quite well!
ohh... I think it's good. I tried this tabber layout before using the MUSIC/OST lyrics but I saw the cons of it on the wikipedia so I reverted and stuck with the ordinary one. I saw some wiki sites that managed to change their tabs style using CSS but I just don't know how to work with local CSS. Looks very complicated. -_-'
Good for you boss :) . err... I just can't wrap my head around it. I want to practice with our local CSS but I freak out because I might screw up big time. LOL! So, I'll leave the tabbers to you boss. hehehe :)XD
Hi Boss! I think it's better to apply the tabs style if we (or you XD hehehe v('u')v ) have already decided on a final style. :) until then you can just use a page or two to work on while deciding for a final outcome. :)
Do you want to create your own sandbox, or do you want to make a test page for everyone?
If you want to make your own: Click the "edit" link on your user page to activate the edit mode and insert '''[[/My sandbox/]]''' and save it. If you have done this correctly you will see a link in red text: "My sandbox". Click on the link and enter some text and save it. Done ^^
The (soon to be) community message would like a quality-check, my dear fellow admin ^^
Please. Please. Please :3
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ooohhhhh!!! Yeah we do need this help. This will be in the community messages right? XD haha, I kind of posted something like this at Furuya's page because many fans go to that page. But this is more detailed. Nice one!
Peeking Ochiai, why do I feel like I'm that? (LOL! Scary...)